Monday 18 January 2021

The Book Club

 

“Ladies this week we have been reading ‘A Guide to the Correction of Young Gentlemen’ by ‘A Lady’, a book first published in 1924,” Betty Crabbe, chairwomen of the Bunbury Ladies Reading Circle, said in her usual forthright, no nonsense manner, “First impressions? 1924… a long time ago. Is the book still relevant? Margret, you’ve a couple of young boys… still a useful book d’you think?”

Margret Williams sat on the sofa with the book held in her lap. All eyes were on her. “Well, of course the writing about nurses and governesses is a little dated… few of us could afford their services these days... but I have to say that my boys would find some of the contents of the book, particularly about discipline, to be still quite relevant… painfully relevant I might add.”

“Does that mean you spank your boys?” Maureen Carter, herself childless and unmarried.

“Why of course… why wouldn’t I? If they’ve been naughty they know what to expect,” Margret Williams replied.

“How old is Hugh now, Margret?” Betty Crabbe asked, “He must be getting a bit old to take over your knee.”

“He was eighteen on his last birthday, but that doesn’t mean he’s exempt from a spanking… far from it. Hugh seems to give me more reason to spank him than he ever did when he was Harry’s age…”

“... and how old is Harry?” Betty asked.

“Thirteen…”

“... and does Harry get his fair share of spankings?”

“I can assure you that hardly a week goes by that Harry gets his bare bottom warmed by a spanking…”

“Then you would agree that our current book, ‘A Guide to the Correction of Young Gentlemen’, should still have a place on the family bookshelf?”

“Oh, absolutely, Betty,” Margret agreed.

“Yes, Cynthia?”

“I don’t have any boys as you know, but I have to say that I found the book most interesting and I would say still relevant in families like Margret’s,” Cynthia James said.

“Interesting? In what way?” Betty asked.

“Perhaps I should’ve said most interesting for the effect it had on my girls. You see, when they saw what I was reading they both insisted on sitting down with me and we read the book together. They were fascinated to read about the boys being undressed and made ready for their punishment. Abigail and Heather couldn’t believe that there are boys today who are spanked completely bare…”

“Yes, I too found it difficult to think it might happen in this day and age,” Maureen Carter said as she agreed with Cynthia James.

“I can assure you that it does happen… in our house at least,” Margret said emphatically.

“If we could just leave that aspect for the moment,” Betty said taking charge of the discussion once more, “I’d like us to turn to Chapter 2 of the Guide. It’s entitled ‘The Eternal Boy’ and I think it may ring some bells with us all…”

“The chapter starts: ‘The condition of boyhood persists in males far longer than many women imagine - in some cases, it is a permanent part of their characters…” Yes, Amanda?”

“I think we can take it as a given that boys, some boys, never mature… or at least never seem to want to leave boyhood behind,” observed Amanda Waters, “My Simon is nearly twenty, but a lot of the time he behaves as if he’s still in junior school…”

“How do you deal with that behaviour, Amanda?” Betty asked.

“I treat him just as I would if he really was still in junior school,” Amanda said without hesitation.

“Meaning?”

“I don’t want to bore you with the details because… well, this came as a surprise to me when I turned to Chapter Four of this book… to see that others had been there before me.”

Betty turned over the pages in her copy: “ Ah yes… ‘Clothing and the Régime’ . You mean you enforce discipline by means of particular clothing, Amanda?”

“I find it very effective,” Amanda replied, warming to her subject, “For instance the book tells us how... and I quote, ‘a young gentleman who has been wearing long trousers for several years will be especially mortified to learn that he is to revert to short ones’. I can certainly attest to the efficacy of that particular strategy…”

“Do go on,” Betty urged.

“Simon has always hated wearing short trousers… ever since he was quite young and at an age at which you would expect to see him in short trousers. Then there was a time when a lot of mothers began putting their boys into long trousers and Simon began to complain that his friends were all wearing longs to school,” Amanda explained, “To be frank I blame the schools for allowing this lapse in school uniform standards to take place... Well, shortly after Simon’s fifteenth birthday I relented and bought him his first pair of long trousers. I wished I hadn’t as Simon’s behaviour coupled with the onset of puberty… Simon was a rather late bloomer, turned him into a most difficult boy. The only effective recourse was my threatening to put him back into short trousers if he didn’t buck his ideas up. This worked for a time, but as I’m sure you all know there quickly comes a time when a threat must be carried out…”

“Well, when Simon came home from school one Friday afternoon I sent him up to his bedroom where he found that I’d laid out a pair of his short trousers he’d worn for school in the second form. I’m sure I don’t need to tell you of the tantrum I had to deal with before Simon put on the little short trousers. During the week I’d arranged for the hems to be taken up by a seamstress friend of mine. Simon’s short trousers always looked very smart and now, I can assure you, they were very short indeed. Simon was told that he would be wearing his short trousers for the weekend and could have his long trousers back for school on Monday morning provided he was well behaved over the weekend.”

“As I’m sure you can imagine, ladies, that did the trick… but of course boys being boys it wasn’t long before Simon found himself put back into short trousers again,” Amanda concluded.

“Thank you Amanda. It seems this book is more relevant than I thought,” Betty observed. “Would anyone like to ask Amanda a question with relation to the chapter?”

“Yes, this was something that Abigail, my eldest girl, picked up on when we read the book together,” Cynthia said, “She found it hard to accept that any boy would be so upset about having to wear short trousers. ‘Girls wear skirts. What’s so strange about boys being made to wear short trousers?’ she said. Abigail simply refused to believe that a boy would be ‘mortified’, to quote from the book. Is this really the case, Amanda? Does it affect Simon so deeply when you put him into short trousers?”

“There is simply nothing Simon fears more than finding those specially altered short trousers laid out on his bed…” Amanda replied. “That’s often quite enough to make him burst into tears and cry like a baby before he’s even put them on and pulled them up.”

“If I could just butt in here,” Margret interrupted, “I just wanted to make it clear for those who aren’t familiar with the subject of short trousers that Amanda is talking about proper tailored short trousers such as those worn to school, or worn as part of a short trouser suit, for instance. I think Amanda will agree with me that we are not talking here about baggy beach shorts and such like… dread word ‘leisurewear’.”

“Most certainly… thank you, Margret for making that clear,” Amanda replied, “It is an important distinction and one that I know Simon is fully aware of…”

“It sounds as though you also have experience of using short trousers as a means of discipline, Margret,” Betty observed.

“Most certainly,” Margret concurred, “For one thing putting a boy back into short trousers doesn’t require the same expenditure of energy as giving him a good bare bottom spanking!”

The ladies roared with laughter at Margret’s observation. This was turning out to be a most interesting meeting of their book club.

“Of course Harry is still in short trousers, so the expenditure of energy is often needed, but Hugh, on the other hand, can be brought back into line quite easily. Just as Amanda described a moment ago, Hugh is put back into short trousers… an old prep-school pair of his along with the rest of his old school uniform. Hugh finds this immensely humiliating as off course the colours of his tie, the tops of his socks and blazer, all proclaim him to be younger than his brother…”

“How does Harry respond to this?” Maureen asked. She too was finding the subject of their discussion most interesting.

“Harry thinks it great fun,” Margret replied, “He knows that as long as he behaves himself, he can act as the big older brother… In a way it’s a complete rôle reversal for the boys and very humbling for Hugh who might also find himself in trouble for not doing what Harry tells him.”

“Well, that does sound a very effective use of short trousers…” Betty said.

“Could I just add,” Margret interrupted, “Harry is occasionally allowed to bring some of his friends around when when this rôle reversal is taking place and they all have a great time teasing and making fun of an older boy put back into short trousers… as I said, it’s a very humbling experience for Hugh.”

“Is there anything you’d like to add, Amanda?” Betty asked.

“Just one thing… when I was explaining Simon’s reaction to seeing his short trousers laid out on his bed and how he’d often burst into tears…” Amanda said, “I forgot to add how he’d plead with me and beg me not to make him wear short trousers again. There’s something almost endearing about seeing a boy of Simon’s age with tears running down his face, ‘Please, mummy… I won’t do it again…’ he’ll say with his face all screwed up…”

“What won’t he do again, if I might ask?” Betty enquired.

“Well, it’s a rather personal problem that Simon has…” Amanda replied somewhat coyly.

“Ahh… perhaps it is what 'A Lady' refers to in Chapter 4, on page 31 I believe?” Betty suggested.

There could be heard the rustling of pages being turned. Then silence as the ladies read the relevant words.

All eyes turned to Amanda.

“Is it self-abuse, Amanda?” Betty asked, “Is that why you put him back into short trousers?”

Amanda nodded: “Yes, I was at my wits end. Why boys persist in playing with themselves after you’ve told them not to… it’s quite beyond me. Simon simply hates being put back into short trousers… as I said, he’s in tears and genuinely ashamed of himself when he’s found out, but that doesn’t stop him…”

Maureen gave a slight cough and asked: “Has anyone else seen Simon dressed in short trousers on these occasions?”

“I think Simon would be absolutely horrified to be seen wearing short trousers,” Amanda replied, “As it is Simon will rush off upstairs to his bedroom at the slightest sign of a visitor…”

“I think what Maureen is going to suggest…” Betty said and nodded towards Maureen, “Am I right?”

“I thought it might help if Simon was to be presented wearing his short trousers to some of your friends,” Maureen proposed, “It might be that the shock of appearing dressed as a younger, junior boy, with his legs bare and exposed in his little short trousers might be just what he needs to make him stop and think before he carries on with his pernicious habit…”

“Perhaps a bare bottom spanking in front of the assembled guests,” Cynthia suggested.

“Plenty for Amanda to think about then,” Betty concluded, “Actually Cynthia’s suggestion leads us on rather neatly to Chapter 6 in which the authoress deals with corporal punishment and the preparation necessary beforehand… Yes, Margret.”

“I’d just like to highlight a couple of sentences if I may, ‘Boys are all different, but all share a common fear of being stripped for chastisement - especially by a woman.’ Then a ‘Lady’ goes on to say, ‘To experience déculottage is a severe humiliation.’ I for one can certainly vouch for the truth of those statements.”

“I take it you are speaking from your experiences with Harry and Hugh?” Betty asked.

“Very much so… I can assure you that facing a wall in our front room for a period of quiet contemplation of his misdeeds, with trousers and underpants down... or completely removed, before a spanking has an effect quite out of proportion to what one might expect,” Margret concurred.

“Yes, it seems as if the many, how shall I put it?... refinements… make all the difference,” Betty observed. Then she asked Margret, “Do you have the same problems of self-abuse with your boys?”

Margret’s eyes rolled upwards: “Is the Pope a Catholic?” she asked in jest which brought forth laughter and giggles from the ladies assembled.

“I should say so,” Margret added, “I’m always finding evidence of their little escapades…”

“You mean…?”

“Yes…”

“And Harry too…?”

“Oh, yes… Harry has started to leave small samples of his DNA for me to find in his bedroom,” Margret said to more chuckles from the ladies who were amused at Margret’s description of her son’s sperm.

“I wonder if I may make a suggestion?” Maureen Carter asked.

“By all means,” Betty said, in her rôle chairing the meeting, “We’re all here to listen to one another’s thoughts and ideas.”

“Well, it occurred to me from what’s been said that there is a case to be made… from an educational point of view, you understand,” Maureen began to have doubts about her idea. Now that she was talking out loud and about to put her thoughts into words, she wondered whether it was such a good idea after all. She hesitated.

“What is it Maureen? Spit it out. Don’t keep us all in suspense,” Betty said.

Maureen gave a little cough and continued: “I was thinking about what Cynthia said about her daughters not believing that a boy, particularly older boys such as Margret’s Hugh or Amanda’s Simon, could be so embarrassed about being put into short trousers…”

“... well, it occurred to me that we might give Abigail, Cynthia’s eldest I believe, the opportunity by inviting the boys and Abigail along to a special book club meeting… um, the boys would be dressed in their short trousers of course.”

There was silence in the room as the ladies looked at one another as they tried to gauge each other’s response. The pause, however, was more to do with the fact that it was Maureen Carter who should have put forward such an idea.

“Oh… I’m sorry… it was rather presumptuous of me I know,” Maureen apologised.

“Oh, good heavens… there’s no need to apologise, Maureen… none at all,” Betty assured her, “I think it’s a marvelous idea…”

It was quickly apparent that other members of the book club agreed with Betty’s sentiments and Maureen blushed as her fellow club members praised her idea.

“How do you think Simon will react to Maureen’s proposal?” A smiling Betty asked Amanda.

“He’ll be appalled!” Amanda replied.

“Hugh will too… he hates anyone to know that he has to wear short trousers if he’s been a naughty boy,” Margret said with a laugh, “Do think I should bring Harry along too?”

“If Harry were to be in longs, that might emphasise the point,” Maureen chipped in as she gained confidence.

“I agree,” Amanda said, “There’s nothing a boy like Simon hates so much as seeing a much younger boy wearing long trousers. As I said before, I kept Simon in short trousers until just after his fifteenth birthday He still resents seeing long trousers worn by young boys...”

“Even though he’s wearing longs himself?” Cynthia asked.

“Gosh… yes, I should say so,” Amanda replied, “Simon gets right up on his high horse when he sees junior boys wearing long trousers… says it shouldn’t be allowed. Actually, it’s quite funny to hear him… especially when I’ve had reason to lay out a pair of his short trousers on his bed to change into when he gets home…”

“That must be quite satisfying, listening to Simon spouting off about how young boys shouldn’t be allowed to wear long trousers, but not knowing that when he gets home he’ll have to hand over his longs and put on a pair of short trousers,” Margret commented. “There’s a sort of poetic justice to that.”

“‘Hand over’ you say?” Betty queried.

“Oh yes, when Hugh has to forfeit his longs, he must hand them to me to be put away somewhere safe,” Margret answered, “It helps to reinforce the act of demotion, so Hugh knows that he won’t get his long trousers back until I’m completely satisfied with his behaviour… Oh, by the way, I should just remind Maureen that Harry’s still in short trousers… he’s only thirteen years old after all, so he hasn’t actually got any long trousers at all.”

“Oh, that’s a shame… not that Harry is still wearing short trousers, but that there can’t be a younger boy wearing longs when Hugh and Simon are here in their short trousers,” Maureen commented, “Never mind, it can’t be helped.”

“Ladies, we are rather drifting away from the discussion of our  book choice,” Betty reminded them, “Not that this hasn’t been a most fascinating topic we’ve been discussing. Indeed I do hope we can bring to fruition the idea of... what shall we call it? A demonstration? Perhaps one of our afternoon meetings can be given over to an assessment of the value of putting older boys back into short trousers… with suitable models brought along by Margret and Amanda. Would that be useful?” Betty then put the idea to a vote. Unsurprisingly there was unanimous support for Betty’s proposal.

The rest of the meeting proceeded with the ladies discussing the various merits of non-corporal and corporal punishment. These discussions, it must be said, were principally led by Margret and Amamda, as they related their own experiences with bringing up boys. Other members of the group were happy to listen and ask questions to which both Margret and Amanda answered with complete honesty and openness.

Margret described how she would not hesitate to scold either Harry or Hugh as they stood in front of her with trousers and underpants lowered and shirt pinned up. Even Hugh, at eighteen, could be reduced to tears as he waited to go over his mother’s knee for a bare bottom spanking.

“The effect is even more pronounced if there are others present,” Margret added, “Hugh has a habit of showing off in front of his cousins when they visit. It always gets him into trouble and he ends up having a spanking in front of them and his aunt…”

“That must be deeply shaming for him,” Betty commented.

“I wonder if Margret would be kind enough to give us a demonstration… a demonstration with Hugh,” Maureen asked, “I can’t quite visualise how Hugh responds, but if I could see what happens, I’d have a much better idea…”

One or two of the ladies chuckled at Maureen’s suggestion. Of course a practical demonstration of the positive effects of putting older boys back into smart, tailored short trousers had already been agreed upon, but the tantalising thought of being shown what would happen if Hugh or Simon were to have transgressed in some way and needed to be disciplined, something that would usually be dealt with at home, to have that performed in front of the assembled ladies of the book club… wouldn’t that be something to brighten up the long winter evenings?

The book club was due to meet a fortnight later. Both Margret and Amanda agreed that in the space of two weeks Hugh and Simon were certain to have got themselves into some sort of bother which would need the attention of their respective mothers. They decided to keep one another informed of the behaviour of their boys.

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It didn’t take long for Amanda’s son Simon to get himself into trouble. Simon was surprised and not a little unnerved when his mother told him that his behaviour would be dealt with the following Thursday, it being the next meeting of the book club, although Simon was unaware of this ‘coincidence’. This put Simon on edge as it meant waiting five whole days before he would learn the terms of his retribution and Simon hated waiting. By the second day Simon was reduced to pleading with his mother to punish him for his transgression, but he was simply told that he’d have to wait. On the third day Simon went to his wardrobe and took out the short trousers and the rest of the school uniform he wore when being punished. Simon stripped and put on the white junior schoolboy underpants and vest. As always happened when he started to dress in this uniform he began to feel anxious. It wasn’t so much the physical aspect of his punishment, that he could withstand even if it did reduce him to tears, no, it was the fear of being seen dressed like a junior schoolboy in the horribly short school uniform trousers. Like most boys of his age he felt humiliated to be dressed as a junior boy, as if puberty hadn’t taken place. God knows it had taken Simon a good while longer than most of the other boys at school to clear that particular hurdle. Putting him back into short trousers added insult to injury and he was terrified of his friends finding out about the way he was punished.

As it was it was probably Simon’s late puberty that accounted for much of his behavioural problems. His mother, Amanda, having discussed with other mothers how Simon had remained ‘my little boy’ or ‘a late bloomer’ (both euphemisms used by these ladies to describe a boy’s delayed puberty), she concluded that Simon’s tendency to show off in front of his friends could be put down to him trying to convince them that he was just as strong and mature as they were, something they all knew to be quite laughable.

Simon picked up the specially altered ultra short short trousers and, feeling his stomach knotting up, stepped into them. Simon’s legs were still perfectly smooth and unblemished which caused him even more embarrassment. His short trousers displayed his flawless legs so completely that he was brought to the brink of fainting as he caught sight of himself in his bedroom mirror. Simon bent down to slip on his ankle socks and as he did so he felt the all too familiar sensation of his little grey shorts riding up over the lower curves of his bottom. He reached for his T-bar school sandals and put them on to complete his uniform. He stood up straight and immediately reached back to tug at the hem at the back of his short trousers, an instinctive response to try and cover the bare flesh exposed as he bent over.

For a moment Simon wondered if he was doing the right thing. His idea was to present himself fully dressed in his junior schoolboy uniform, ready for whatever punishment his mother chose to give him in the hope that he could get it out of the way and not have to wait until Thursday. Sadly Simon was to be disappointed. 

“Well I must say I am surprised, Simon,” Amanda said when her son entered the room. “I always say how smart you look wearing short trousers…”

“Please, mum… Can’t we get it over with… my punishment, that is,” Simon pleaded.

“Is that why you put on your uniform, Simon?”

“Yes, mum…”

“I’m afraid it’s not going to make any difference, Simon. I said that I’d deal with you on Thursday and Thursday it will be…”

“Oh, mummy… pleeease! I don’t want to wait until Thursday…” Simon implored his mother, pouting and looking every inch the naughty schoolboy as he squeezed his fists and smacked his bare thighs in frustration.

In his mother’s eyes Simon was no longer a teenager of nineteen summers, but more her little boy ready to take his first nervous steps into his grammar school.

“Simon, I don’t want you to make it worse for yourself than it is already. We agreed that you would abide by my rules just as long as you were living under my roof. I see no evidence that you are about to change your accommodation arrangements, therefore I must conclude that you are willing to obey my wishes when it comes to your discipline. That is the case is it not?”

“Yes, mummy,” Simon bowed his head, unable to argue. His mother was right. He had agreed to do his chores and behave himself while he lived at home. “I’m sorry if I’ve upset you, mummy…”

“You’ve not upset me, Simon… not in the least,” Amanda paused and thought for a moment, “Since you’ve taken the trouble to change into your nice uniform you may keep it on and you may also change into it on your return home each day…”

Oh, mummy…” Simon exclaimed, shocked at this imposition.

“Simon,” Amanda warned her son sternly, “I will lay your uniform out on your bed each day and I will expect you to go straight up to your room and change without any argument. Are we agreed?”

Defeated, Simon nodded his head, “Yes, mummy.”

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Thursday came round soon enough. What Simon didn’t know was that his mother’s book club would be meeting at their house that very day. He was still unaware when he heard the doorbell ringing. Simon had changed into his school uniform and was already on edge as he wondered what his punishment would be following his transgression a few days before.

His mother called out from the kitchen: “Simon! Would you see who that is please? I’m busy.”

This was new to Simon. He’d never answered the front door dressed in short trousers. He was about to call back to his mother that he couldn’t go to the door; that he was wearing his school uniform, but he realised to do that would be a mistake, so he walked into the hall right up to the front door. Simon took a deep breath and reached up and grasped the door-knob. He stood behind the door, shielding himself from view, as he turned the knob and slowly opened and peered around the door to see who it was.

“Hello Simon… It is Simon isn’t it? I’m Betty Crabbe, a friend of your mother’s… she is expecting me,” Betty Crabbe announced herself brightly to the bewildered boy.

“I, er… you’d better come in,” Simon said, still cowering behind the door as he opened it wide enough for Betty Crabbe to enter the hall.

“I chair the Bunbury Ladies Reading Circle… your mother’s a member,” Betty explained to the increasingly nervous Simon, who realised that at some point this lady was going to see what he was wearing.

“You see we were getting a bit fed up always meeting at the same house, so at our last gathering we decided to take it in turns to host our little group and your mother’s name was top of the list. Did she not say anything?”

Simon was shocked as he grasped the full implication of what he was being told: “You mean… here… today… now?”

“Yes, Simon… that’s the idea,” Betty said and then asked, “Simon, don’t think I’m being nosy, but do you always hide behind the door like that when you have visitors?”

“No, er, it’s nothing… um, why don’t you, er, go through to the front room… Mrs, er Crabbe,” Simon replied, getting and sounding very flustered, “I, er… I need to, er go and change…”

“You’ll do no such thing,” his mother said sternly as she walked into the hall, “Now stop being silly and come out from behind that door, Simon and say ‘hello’ properly to Mrs Crabbe…”

“Mum… I can’t… please… please don’t make me,” Simon pleaded as he cowered behind the open door.

“Simon, I’m warning you… don’t make things worse for yourself. Stop this ridiculous infantile behaviour right now, because if I have come over there and drag you from behind that door I shall confiscate all your other clothes for the next four weeks and you will only be allowed to wear what you are wearing now… unless you would prefer to wear nothing at all.”

Betty Crabbe turned to Amanda Waters and smiled, “Oh, is that what all this performance is about? Simon is already wearing his short trousers,” she said answering her own question, “I might have guessed.”

Amanda Waters had had quite enough and without further ado she marched straight over to Simon, reached up, took him by the ear and pulled him out from behind the door.

Simon squealed in protest, begging his mother to let him go, but Amanda held onto his ear telling her son that she would only let go once he’d apologised to Betty Crabbe.

I’m sorry…. I’m sorry… Oh, mummy, please… it hurts…” Simon said as he squirmed in front of his mother’s visitor.

“I’m still waiting for a proper apology, Simon,” his mother reminded him as she held onto his ear.

Simon finally found the right words and apologised for his behaviour to Betty Crabbe.

“Thank you Simon,” Betty said and walked up to the embarrassed boy, “Now let’s get you straightened up again… Your short trousers have got all rucked up while you did your little dance… Fancy a big boy like you making such a fuss.” And with that Betty Crabbe reached down and slipped her fingers up into the front of Simon’s short trousers. She gave them a gentle tug and then brushed them with the open palms of her hands as she marvelled at how they must be the shortest boy’s short trousers she’d ever seen.

“There we are… all nice and smart again… and you’re going to be looking just as smart wearing your short trousers for the next four weeks now I believe…”

Simon couldn’t prevent a slight groan from passing through his lips as he looked pleadingly at his mother, but he could see it would be no use for him to say anything. There was no point in arguing, far from it, that was the worse thing he could do. Simon knew from experience that his mother would think nothing of extending the period during which he would wear short trousers.

Just at that moment came the sound of girls’ voices through the still open front door.

“That’ll be Cynthia James with Abigail and Heather by the sounds of it,” Betty Crabbe said to Amanda, “If you remember her girls were so interested in our last book they simply begged to be allowed to come along to one of our meetings… I hope you don’t mind.”

“Not at all… Of course I don’t mind,” Amanda replied.

Simon’s face was ashen as he unconsciously rubbed his bare thighs together and looked from his mother to Betty and back again.

The sound of the girls’ footsteps on the path grew closer...


69 comments:

  1. Hello, Mogg...
    Welcome back, happy new year.
    Great story to welcome us all back with lots of interesting scenarios to be developed from this very embarrassing opening. Looking forward to more.
    Thank you
    telmac

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  2. An excellent start to what will hopefully be a serial of misadventure for our fallen heroes. Thank you

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  3. Well done, mogg, on another enthralling story. It's Simon who interests me most - 19 year old schoolboy being paraded in little grey shorts and treated like a boy not much older than half his age. Of course, Hugh was in a similar boat but we heard more about Simon. I knew one or two boys who had to wear properly tailored grey shorts in public but this treatment waned once they were 17, which I thought a pity.

    Jolyon

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  4. Many thanks for your comments. It's much appreciated. I do seem to be fairly good at coming up with interesting scenarios (to quote telmac), but it's in following them up that I become unstuck. Nevertheless, I'll try harder and do my best.

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  5. That was superb, and I have got say I look forward to the next and future chapters.
    I have read the book myself and my mind goes awash with the many demonstrations that could (and should) be performed in front of the lady member and any girls lucky enough to be invited along.
    A lovely experience for any females watching boys of thirteen upward being corrected….
    Regards Stephen…

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  6. Thanks Stephen. Yes, I did wonder if there was anyone else who was fortunate enough to have come across this fine volume. Now I know!

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  7. Hello, Mogg.
    I would just like to say that I think that your comment about 'following them up that I become unstuck' to be, probably, a little modest. I have found many instances where you have continued various themes, successfully, in the past.
    You are very talented and we are lucky to have you to follow.
    telmac69

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    1. Thank you telemac. That's very kind of you.

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  8. My wife regards the book as more or less her bible, she reads it regularly. I am delighted to read your story and I look forward to further episodes. Our four boys are in traditional, and very short "knickers" and are all in their teens.

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    1. Good to hear your boys are dressed so smartly, Gerrard. One hopes they also have smart haircuts to match. Unkempt hair can often let down the neat appearance of a teenage boy. By the way, how are the boys coping wearing their 'very short' trousers in the cold and damp weather this time of the year? I imagine there are one or two whinges from them when they are sent out to play, but I'm sure a few words from their mum soon sorts them out.

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    2. Thank you for your response. Our boys hair is indeed very short and neatly trimmed to go with their smart attire. Complaints from the boys are few with regard to them having cold legs when they are playing out, or being taken to the shops. When such complaints are voiced their legs are soon warmed up by their mother in the time honoured way!

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  9. Gerrard's wife is to be commended. A pair of short trousers, knee length socks, a school cap and a full length mackintosh is all a teenage boy needs to keep warm

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  10. Thank you Mrs Jenkinson The attire you mention is indeed exactly as our boys wear. They certainly need nothing else. We are often delighted to receive appreciative comments from strangers in the street about the boys' appearance. The boys have a very polite little speech they give on these occasions thanking the adults for the kindness of their comments.

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    1. Thats very good to know Gerrard. I'm sure the boys are very much the talk of the town!

      I don't suppose its easy to do with 4 boys but I also insist on my son holding my hand whenever we're out and about. There's nothing more embarrassing than holding Mummy's hand in public for a teenage boy.

      This is how I also dress my boy since he got into trouble with the police. He is the epitome of the traditional English schoolboy at all times. He sometimes makes a fuss about having to wear his mackintosh in public, complaining that other boys can wear jackets and anoraks. At this point I may slao his bare legs, and promptly button him up in his mackintosh myself, just as one would a much younger child.

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    2. Gerrard, I hope I'm not the only one who would be delighted to know what your boys say when they give their 'very polite little speech' thanking adults for their kind comments.

      Mrs Jenkinson, holding mummy's hand might be embarrassing for a teenage boy when out in public, but it really is a most sensible precaution as boys are so easily distracted and prone to wander off if not kept under proper control. I believe that for some recalcitrant teenagers the use of juvenile harness and reins are the preferred option.

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    3. Mogg, you're quite right in saying that holding a hand prevents a teenage boy from both lagging behind and wandering off without asking permission.

      The reins are a very sensible suggestion also. Food for thought!!

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  11. To Mogg and Mrs Jenkinson. Thank you for your kind comments. I shall let you have the polite little speech my boys have to give when I have more time. Mrs Jenkinson, you are a very good mother drsssing your boy the way you do - very well done! My wife uses reins on the boys when they are all out together. On the occasions the boys have to walk in front, when off the reins and walk in twos holding each others hands.

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  12. Thats a marvellous idea and one I'm looking into for my son. I've already discussed it with his younger sister and she thinks its a great idea.

    I do think that the best way of dealing with a naughty boy's worst features is to dress them in appropriate clothing. A traditional full length nylon mackintosh buttoned to the neck certainly helps in this regard.



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    1. I agree. Very short, short trousers and a smart uniform with a bow tie and short jacket makes a boy look like a boy and improves behaviour. Also my wife finds the brevity of the shorts handy in order to give a summary correction to the backs of the legs when out. The mackintosh buttoned to the neck is the icing on the cake, for sure.

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    2. Yes the fashion for longer length short trousers isn't one I favour. Simple short cut is the preference here.

      We seem to have so much in common and I look forward to hearing more from you in due course.

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    3. I am delighted to make your acquaintance on here and I shall be in touch.

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  13. Great story as always Mogg looking forward to more.
    ps what has happened to Wincy I do hope he is OK.

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    1. Thank you for your comment. I'm sorry to say that I'm as much in the dark as to Wincy's whereabouts as anyone else. Like you I can only hope that he is OK.

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  14. Dear Mogg,

    You wished to hear more about the little speech my boys give when they receive praise on their appearance and good behaviour while they are out.


    The boys all stand up straight in a line, arms at their sides, looking the people in the eye, heads up (they are told to imagine they are balancing books on their heads as they do in their deportment lessons)

    Then, all boys in unison:- "Thank you Sir/Madam for your kind comments."

    After that the oldest boy present says "If it please you our parents allow us only to speak to people in the street for whom we have specific permission to speak with but we we be very pleased to tell them about your praise of us and they will be delighted."

    Then, in unison once more:- "Thank you once again." This is accompanied by a crisp and respectful nod of the head.

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    1. It's good to know your boys have deportment lessons. One hears so little about this very important subject these days that I thought it had fallen out of fashion.

      As well as walking across a room with a book balanced on their head, I wonder if the boys also have exercises such as picking up an object placed at their feet. This must be accomplished without letting the book fall from his head of course. I assume there are penalties for the boy who is unfortunate enough to let his book slide from the top of his head.

      When you said your boys all stand in a straight line to give their little speech, I am reminded to ask whether they also stand in line before leaving your house, so they can be inspected to make sure they are dressed properly and that hands and fingernails are clean, hair has been properly combed, etc.

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    2. I agree about inspection before leaving the home. And slapped legs follow quickly, if standards are not adhered to

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    3. Dear Mogg,

      Deportment lessons are a daily event in our house. The boys do indeed have to pick up an object from the floor without letting the book balanced on their heads drop. If the book does drop it is re-balanced on the head on a boy with very sore upper legs and/or bottom. The boys also have ballet lessons which improve their deportment and keeps them fit. My wife and I have never allowed rough games like football for our boys so ballet is a great substitute.

      The boys are lined up for inspection of their uniforms or sailor suits before going out. Particular attention is paid to hands, fingernails and hair.

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    4. It has occurred to me that with four teenage boys you must have had to address the problem of what one might delicately term 'nocturnal activities'. From what you have told me, I would guess that your wife does not approve of such bedtime behaviour, so I am curious to know how it is dealt with. Please forgive me if I am being a little too intrusive into your family affairs, but the more I learn of your boys' upbringing, the more I appreciate all the hard work of their parents.

      How envious I am that I'm not able to see your boys dressed in their sailor suits! It's so nice to hear how they have this traditional boy's outfit in their wardrobe. I hope they wear it regularly.

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    5. Thank you for your message. As you state "nocturnal activities" have been a problem. In fact so great was the problem with our four boys had my wife and I resorting to corporal punishment on almost a daily basis. I decided to save the boys' bottoms by buying small metal cages online which fit neatly over the private parts and makes access impossible for the boy. We tried mittens with straps tied to the upper legs but this was not so effective as the drastic action we have now taken.

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    6. The sailor suits are a regular attire for our boys when visiting relatives and friends or when people visit us. At present with lockdown they wear sailor suits to Skype their older relatives.

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    7. How thoughtful to have your boys specially dressed in their charming sailor suits when they Skype their older relatives who must be pleased to see there has been no let up in maintaining your family's high standards during the lockdown.

      I confess to being a little saddened that you were forced to resort to the expense of buying small metal cages in which to contain your boys' private parts. The boys' nocturnal activities must have been on a truly appalling scale for you to reach the point at which it was necessary to purchase such devices. Although I do note that your wife and yourself had reached the point at which the boys were being punished for this unhealthy behaviour on an almost daily basis which would certainly account for the need to take the steps you have taken.

      I am curious to know more about your experience with the boys wearing mittens secured to their thighs. How on earth did they manage to still misbehave when so restrained? I can only think that in some way the boys succeeded in manipulating each other... an altogether rather shocking thought and one which leads me conclude that you and your wife have made the right decision with regard to buying the cages.

      I do sincerely hope that all four of your boys understand and are grateful that you are taking these measures for their own good.

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    8. Thank you for your kind comments on the sailor suits.

      Yes, things had got to a serious level with the nocturnal activities. I was afraid they may have manipulating each other. They were certainly guilty of laying on their fronts and rubbing their bodies up and down. I know the measures I have taken are robust to say the least but, as I stated before, at least the boys' bottoms are saved from a lot of smackings now they cannot offend. Anyway the devices are only worn from bedtime until the get up. They go on after their bath and are worn beneath their blue and white striped traditional (but shortened) nightshirts. After bath time the boys come down to wish all adults good night. My wife's mother lives with us so she, my wife and myself will be in the drawing room plus any guests. Bedtimes are early.

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    9. I do believe that you have found the correct means to control your boys’ pernicious habit. In having the boys wear their devices during nighttime you are being proportionate in their use and of course in the daytime they are, I assume, fully supervised at all times during their activities.

      You say the devices are put on the boys after their bath before they put on their traditional nightshirts. So they are wearing their devices when they go down to your drawing room to say good night to all the adults. You mention that their nightshirts are shortened, are they so short that a boy’s device may be inadvertently glimpsed by one of your guests who might be unfamiliar with its purpose? If such is the case, is the boy in question required to furnish an explanation as to what the device is and why he is wearing it?

      I am shocked to hear how your boys were rubbing themselves up and down on their fronts without thought for the mess they would make. Did they care so little for their nightshirts and bedding? Did they not consider how the resultant residue of their sticky emissions would be positive proof of their reprehensible behaviour and that this would result in their punishment?

      Do the boys share a bedroom? I wonder if it might not be useful to install a small security camera to make absolutely sure your boys do not get up to any more mischief, although as you rightly say with their devices in place they will not be able to offend, but it’s just as well be be certain.

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    10. Yes, the boys are closely supervised during their schooling and other daytime activities so the devices are only needed at night.

      The devices may be glimpsed by guests if the boys are not very careful in their movements, or if they fidget (for that the nightshirts would be lifted so that correction may be administered). If the guest is unfamiliar with the method then the eldest boy explains why they have this sensible arrangement and he expresses grateful thanks for the caring parenting which instigated it.

      I am ashamed to say our boys had no regard for the mess their awful habit was making. That is why I decided on drastic measures.

      The boys do share the same room, "the dorm". They have four metal framed single beds in a row. Very little else furnishes the dorm. There are four chamber pots and an upright chair for a parent to sit on when needed. There are hooks for canes and tawses but little else. The boys' clothing is kept in another room where they are dressed.

      We have installed a security system with an audio facility so they can be observed and we can monitor them to ensure the rule of silence is adhered to.

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    11. I take it the upright chair in the dorm is for the use of either parent when one of your boys needs to be taken over your knee for a bare bottom spanking, or perhaps a dose of the short strap.

      I would like, if I may, to raise the subject of pubic hair. With four teenage boys under parental care I would suspect that at least two or maybe three of your boys have reached the stage of puberty at which they have started to grow pubic hair. It is often a time when a boy, seeing a few hairs sprout around his penis, thinks that he is now ‘grown up’ and deserves adult privileges. The boy may start showing off to his contemporaries who have yet to grow any hairs and this can lead to jealousy and the inevitable conflict.

      What prompted me to think of this subject (one that is too often given little consideration) was your decision to employ small metal cages to prevent your sons from playing with themselves. It seems to me, and forgive me if you have already done so, that removing the boys’ pubic hair would make the daily chore of fitting and removing the devices that easier and quicker and of course it would also have the added benefit of dealing with the problem raised in my previous paragraph.

      Thank you for explaining what happens when the boys are in their short nightshirts saying ‘good night’ to your guests. I imagine the younger boys may be prone to nervous fidgeting especially in front of guests they may not have been introduced to before. How upsetting for one of those younger boys to find himself with his nightshirt raised while he is spanked and his elder brother then explaining what the devices are and why they have been fitted. Tears before bedtime, no doubt.

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    12. Your are correct Mogg. The chair in the bedroom is for a parent to sit on in order to place a boy over the knee for a smacked, strapped or slippered bare bottom. The chair is otherwise out of bounds to the boys.

      My wife and I keep all our boys completely free of body hair. In our view boys must be smooth and clean in appearance at all times. We have removed hair from each boy as they began to appear so we have never had issues about it. The boys are organised into two teams of two. The two eldest boys inspect each other for hair as do the younger two. They then talk their mother through what needs attention. If they miss something then Lord save their bottoms.

      The fitting and removal of the devices is easy due to them being smooth. They have never dared make a fuss about wearing them, if course.

      All the boys are prone to fidgeting. They are not allowed to sit on the furniture in the drawing room so must sit still, on the floor, with legs out straight, arms at their sides and the palms of their hands flat on the floor. A small book is placed on each of their heads. As I say fidgeting is common, the books drop often and the boys always end up over their mother's knee. As you say "tears at bedtime"!

      The eldest does become embarrassed when telling guests about the arrangement with the chastity devices but we encourage him to speak clearly and in detail about why they are worn. Usually the encouragement is in the form of the strap being applied to his bare bottom as he speaks.

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    13. Mr Power,

      I hope you don't mind me entering this discussion but I do have to commend you on your approach, particularly on the issue of self pollution which is at best a tricky issue.

      We had the same problem when our boy reached 14 and the mess on the sheets was regular. My wife had a lot of laundry to do.

      We used similar measures to yourself initially, we talked to him about it, we used an old leather tawse as a persuader and thought we had cured it until my wife one day noticed a funny smell in his room and went to search for the source.

      At the back of one of the cupboards was a very sticky smelly towel he'd been using to mop up the mess.

      Following that we discussed other methods of stopping his nocturnal activities.

      Firstly we tried locking rubber pants which were put on him after his bath which remained on until morning, but obviously that increased washing as well and after a few days we noticed there was still emissions on the inside of the pants as well as him wetting himself during the night was causing a rash.

      Following that i started to search for methods to stop self pollution and was amazed to find a wide range of male chastity devices available.

      We looked at the possibility of a full belt but rejected that on the time it would take to put on and decided after much research on a male cage called a holy trainer which was rated the best for both security and comfort and we ordered a steel one after measuring him as per the instructions

      I was amazed when it arrived, it was quite heavy about 400g and wondered if I'd done the right thing.

      We decided, as a result of the expense to give it a try, there was quite a lot of wailing and protest but we warned the alternative was regular thrashings and the rubber pants.

      Eventually he agreed to try it, he had quite a job getting the ring on but after corresponding with an "enthusiast" they gave me a set of tips to fitting easily and quickly which we passed to him.

      Initially we had terrible trouble with erections during the ring fitting process which made it impossible and we found a good cure for that, two or three swats with the tawse before fitting soon cured it and he was able to put it on quite quickly.

      We let him fit it himself so that it was comfortable and then once on, it was inspected and confirmed to be locked and he would hand over the key for the night.

      Initially we had him wear it for a few hours at a time during the day, while maintaining the rubber pants at night to ensure there was no injury and the weight was initially a problem for him but we supported that with tight high waisted y fronts with strong waist elastic.

      After about a month he was able to wear it most of the day without complaining and there seemed to be no evidence of any circulation issues around the groin.

      At this point we offered him the choice, the rubber pants or the chastity cage and he opted for the cage at night instead. He did struggle at night with it initially and we insisted on removal in the morning and through washing but at least it meant he could go to the toilet at night by himself.

      A year on and he barely notices the weight, we are at a point that he's growing and we may need a bigger ring size shortly but other that complaints of a bit of pain in the morning linked to morning glory which is wonderful because he gets out of bed early so he can be released rather than having to drag him out of bed.

      So i concur with your methods and he now sleeps soundly at night with no mess.

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    14. Thank you for sharing your experiences. I am delighted to find a caring and sensible parent who has taken reasonable steps to cease the disgusting practice of self abuse. Well done!!

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    15. Thank you for your reply, you mentioned using cages, I wonder what sort and type you use?

      We did quite a lot of research and one of the things we had reported was that some were able to pull their winky out of the tube from the rear.

      That's why we went for the Holy Trainer which comes with an anti pull out device and the tube is narrow enough to provide adequate friction with a head that is recessed against the pubic bone so that its very difficult to get any grip on it from the rear.

      What type of cages do you use on your boys?

      Tom

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    16. We use a heavy duty metal cage. We find it secure. The boys have never managed to pull their members out of them yet.

      I must say the Holy Trainer sounds excellent. I will do some research. Where do you buy them from?

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    17. I have found the device on line. I am tempted to try one.

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    18. Hello Gerrard,

      I got the one I use for my son on

      https://lockthecock.co.uk/collections/holy-trainer-chastity-devices/products/stainless-steel-silver-standard-prison-bird-holy-trainer

      I think it was about £36 when we bought it, its very good and high security with its own integrated special lock and on the odd occasion we insist he wears it during the day does not show under his shorts

      Hope that works for you

      Tom

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  15. Hello Gerard

    Thank you for your updates. You seem to be taking all of the necessary precautions in terms of raising 4 potentially headstrong teenage boys. It does seem however that they are treated like 6 or 7 year old, in conventional terms at least, rather than their true age. Well done for that.

    How do you deal with bad behaviour and fussy eating at the dining table? In my experience, this can potentially become a battleground, but seating my son in an adapted highchair, and spoonfeeding him when necessary, addresses any behaviour or food fad issues. Please share your experiences on this important topic Gerard.

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    1. Hello Mrs Jenkinson,

      Thank you for your question. Meal times have become a battle ground. I am particularly susceptible to being irritated by anything other than perfect behaviour from our boys during meals, including finishing all food on the plate. Sadly I never see good behaviour at table. Therefore I have placed on order for four adult sized high chairs which will be placed in the breakfast room which will now be called the nursery dining room. The main dining room will be an exclusively adult domain. The boys will eat alone but they will be supervised and spoon fed if needed. Of course they will be expected to improve how they act in future and will be soundly smacked if they fail to please their parents. So, really we are adopting a regime at mealtimes much the same as yours.

      I hope your boy is being as good child.

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  16. Hello Gerard

    What a sensible measure that is. I'm sure neither you or your wife will regret it in any way. I do hope you're able to find some suitable bibs for them to wear?

    I'd imagine that they'd be very embarrassed to be seen like this by people outside the family, particularly young women of an assertive nature. Whilst being spoonfed by their Mummy is most sensible, does she have any assistance for what is surely a labour intensive activity in the shape of a nanny or babysitter?

    Are there any food types in particular that the boys get fussy about? Its green vegetables (sprouts, cabbages etc) and swedes here. I don't hesitate to pass my son's food through a blender, reducing it to a gloomy mush, before spoon feeding him like a much younger child.

    You asked about whether he's behaving. Well he's been particularly naughty in the last week, so he's been put back into his sailor suit and other similar clothing as punishment. He made quite the scene in the park while dressed like this, but i took no messing and loudly slapped his legs without hesitation, in front of several other family groups.

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    1. Dear Mrs Jenkinson,

      Thank you for your response.

      Currently my wife has no help with the boys but after lockdown we will seek a governess and a nanny for the boys.

      Green vegetables are the most common problem here too. Like you these are blended into a mush for ease of feeding.

      Sorry to hear you boy has played up. May I enquire his age? You are perfectly correct in having him in his sailor suit. I trust this includes short trousers.

      Boys always play up in the park. I think it is a salutary lesson for them to be smacked in full view of other family groups (followed by an exemplary hiding once back home, of course).

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    2. A nanny would appear to be in order to deal with their childish tendencies. A willingness to be very strict with them is a prerequisite of course!!! Did you have anyone in mind?

      Yes the sailor suit has short trousers and are worn with white knee length socks, and dark blue T Bar Sandals to match the colour of the sailor suit itself.

      Yes... what is it about boys making an exhibition of themselves in parks and other public areas?! A public smacking or slap send out the right signals to prevent such misbehaving in the future. Abd yes, a full smacked bottom over my lap when we return home, even though he is now 14 years of age. But he has many more years of being dressed, treated and punished in this way, ahead of him.

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    3. Thank you for the kindness of your message.

      We do have a young lady in mind for the position of nanny. She is the daughter of one of my wife's friends. She is a mature acting girl of 17 years of age. She is aware of the strict regime in operation here and she will be pleased to add her support to it.

      Our boys' sailor suits are white with pale blue trim and stripes rather than the normal dark blue. The short trousers are very short indeed. The shoes are T-bar sandals in pale blue worn with white ankle socks with a tiny pale blue bow at the front. They have straw boaters with a large pale blue ribbon forming a big bow at the back to reflect the detail on the socks and a long sash hangs down from the bow. My wife has put a lot of effort into the boys sailor suits and they do look very good indeed. I am delighted you dress your boy in his sailor suit. At 14 he must look very nice.

      You are correct about boys in public parks and similar open spaces. They do play up. We find having them on a leash helps. In practice we tend to put the worse behaved boy, the eldest, in reins. This works wonders for his behaviour. Far from showing off he seems to wish he was invisible.

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    4. Thos sailor auits sound most appropriate, as you've described them. They must feel so embarrassed to be seen wearing them, while their peers are permitted jeans and other casual clothing.

      I also have a matching frock coat for my son - double breasted, with white buttons, a white velvet collar, and a style that flares out from the chest to knee length. My son detests wearing it, but I brush aside his protests as I button him up in it like a much younger child.

      Yes a harness and reins is definitely to be commended and keeps even the most bad tempered boy under control in public

      Please keep us updated with the progress on the 17yo nanny. How old is your eldest boy? I suspect they may be of similar age? How embarrassing for him!!

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    5. I am pleased to hear about the frock coat your son wears. We have four blue coats with black velvet collars for our boys. They flare out just like yours but I think must be shorter, coming to mid thigh, giving the impression no short trousers are being worn (or so I have been told). My boys also look so young in those coats.

      My boys are 14, 16, 17 + 19 years old so the nanny will be older than two of her charges and younger than the other two but only by two months for the seventeen year old boy. Girls mature so much earlier than boys so this is fine.

      In our home we refer to formal short trousers as "knickers" which is an archaic word for them derived from knickerbockers. Please forgive me if I call them by this name in my correspondence.

      The harness and reins are a good way of controlling naughty boys like ours.

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    6. Hello Gerard

      That look is a timeless one and I'm sure the boys all look very smart in their traditional frock coats.

      One question.... how are they dressed for school?

      I look forward to hearing how "Nanny" settles in. Have you thought about the preferred way for her to punish the boys when needed?

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    7. Hello Mrs Jenkinson,

      Yes the boys do look smart in their frock coats.

      The boys have always been home schooled so they wear the traditional school uniform with very short, short trousers.

      I will keep you informed how nanny settles in. She will not be coming to us until lockdown is over. She will be punishing the boys with hand or cane on bare bottoms. I think there will be a lot of leg slapping done too.

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    8. We all look forward to hearing more about Nanny and her evolving approach to discipline

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  17. Dear Mr Power,

    how old is your eldest? Are you saying that with him in harness and reins, a simple leash attached to a wrist strap is then enough to keep the younger three under control? Does the harness include a crotch strap? And to avoid him trying to take it off, or lashing out when teased by his brothers, does he wear his mittens, clipped to the harness at the sides, for such outings?

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    1. Thank you for your message.
      My oldest boy is nineteen but looks and is dressed to appear a lot younger. He is the naughtiest of the boys and needs close contact control otherwise he will be wandering off and start leering at girls, etc. A simple leash is enough for the younger boys. If they play up they can be pulled close and given soundly smacked legs. The harness for the oldest boy is just as you describe. The harness does include a crotch strap and mittens which can be clipped to his sides or even one hand can be clipped onto to handle of a supermarket trolley which is being pushed by mummy. The harness makes a shopping expedition much easier.

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  18. Hello. I've been reading the most interesting dialogue between the great Mogg, Mrs. Jenkinson, and Mr. Power. I hope I'm not being rude by jumping in. My name is Sharon and many years ago, my dear parents had to implement discipline on my brothers because the oldest was in trouble with the law. As a precaution, they implemented discipline similar to many as discussed here. The oldest was 23 at the time and the others were 20 and 19. Their main clothing were sometimes short shorts but at other times, they wore short skirts without pants underneath. So much to tell and I would be happy to share more very soon. Thank you all.

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    1. You're most welcome Sharon. I'm sure that like me, readers will be interested to learn more about your brothers' discipline. A skirt worn without pants sounds as if it could a very embarrassing proposition if a boy wasn't careful!

      Were you involved in helping your parents with your brothers discipline? How old were you when this happened, if you don't mind me asking?

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    2. Hello Mogg, I wasn't directly involved very often but that was my choice. I did have an older sister who was involved. I was 21 when this all began. I'll be happy to answer to the best of my recollection any questions that you or any others here may have. Many may argue that if they were badly behaved, that it was because of bad parenting. I don't see it that way. Bad parenting would have been not implementing the appropriate discipline. Thank You again.

      Best regards,

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    3. Apologies for the delay in replying, Sharon. Whilst I agree that it would have been very remiss of your parents not to respond to the situation they found themselves in, it did occur to me that it was a little unfair to impose short trouser (and short skirt!) discipline on the two younger brothers simply because their older brother was misbehaving. I realise this was done, as you have noted, as a precaution, but nevertheless it does seem as if they were being punished for the sins of their brother. How did they react to the imposition of this 'precautionary' discipline?

      You said that you weren't directly involved in your brothers' discipline very often. Could I ask what happened when you were involved? Did you observe what happened when your older sister became involved in the boys' discipline?

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    4. Hello Mogg. No need for any apologies.

      My other two brothers did have their own behavior issues too. Nothing as compared to my older brother, so my parents did decide to use the same approach. I understand your thoughts that maybe this was unfair to them. But as my dear mother always said, :Life isn't always fair" So, hence the disciplinary routine was put in place. I hope this clarifies the circumstances for you. As an aside, eventually my brothers married and this form of discipline continued into their 40's when it was finally decided that they could be trusted as mature and well behaved gentlemen. But their initial reaction was one of defeat and dread and they just knew that their lives had changed.

      As for me, I was very much an observer wherever and whenever discipline was given out. I was there for dressing, undressing, spanking when necessary, feeding at meal times and anything else.

      I'll be happy to discuss this more here if you're interested.

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    5. When you said 'this form of discipline continued into their 40s' do you mean to say the boys' wives were encouraged by your parents to continue with short trouser discipline?

      It must have been extremely embarrassing for the boys' when their (then) girlfriends were told how they were dressed for the purposes of maintaining discipline in your household. I wonder how the girls reacted?

      I take it that in you and your sister's presence the boys were not allowed any modesty when they were being dressed and undressed?

      Also you mention 'feeding at meal times'. Do you mean the boys had actually to be fed? The problem of fussy eaters has been addressed in some earlier comments and I'd be interested to know if this was the case with your brothers.

      One last question, were your brothers taken out for exercise or visits and therefore seen in public dressed in their short trousers?

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  19. Hi again Mogg. I'm 69 now, so this took place quite a while ago. But again, I'll try to answer any questions and provide any details that I can remember.

    Sharon

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    1. May I say how very sensible your parents were to implement this discipline to your brothers even at the age they were then. Boys are never to old for a strict regime, skirts are excellent for a bigger boy, to put him firmly in his place.

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    2. Hello Mr. Power. It appears you and your wife are taking the right roads in getting your sons on the straight and narrow. I look forward to hearing more.

      Best Regards

      Sharon

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    3. Hello, Ms Sharon.

      Do You have the same policies for the males in Your life?

      Kind regards,

      telmac

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    4. No Sir, I'm widowed and we had no children

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    5. Ms Sharon.

      I am so sorry to hear that.

      My condolences.

      telmac

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  20. Ms Sharon

    You may find a number of "young boys" read this blog.. In case You were interested.

    telmac

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  21. Very enjoyable, liked the check to see which boy was wearing the shortest shorts.

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